Huge fan of Carl Jung as well as TJL podcast!! I too have found that things seem to gestate in the ‘dark’ times of consciousness. As hard as they are to endure sometimes, I always know know some new birth or progress in my spiritual mind will follow. I trust that process. The only real way to glimpse what is going on ‘down there’ is to watch my dreams and boy, do they ever change near the winter solstice. It seems to be a re-arranging of Self, Shadow, Anima et al. Facinating to say the least.
Thank you for reading and for your comment Chris. It’s not everyday that I found new fellow Jungian enthusiasts ☺️☺️ Yesss, wintering is some serious business - so little obvious action and so much new emerges out of it ❤️
Just wondering if you’ve found any other Jungians on substack. I heard Lisa Marchiano mention she’s on here, but I couldn’t find her. Also, curious if you tried their Dreamschool? I did for about 6 months but had to prioritize other things and finally let it go. It was really interesting though and I learned quite a bit about dream interpretation.
No, I haven’t tried it, but I think I will at some point! I have to. I love their podcast. Another one is Speaking of Jung, check that one out if you already haven’t. :) I have enrolled in a Jungian coaching program developed by Jung Platform - also a great resource on depth psychology and Jungian work.
I have Speaking of Jung in my podcast library. I haven’t listened to it yet but will, since you suggested it.
How about Father Bill W podcast? Check that out sometime if you haven’t already. He’s big into Jung as it relates to recovery and delves into analysts like Robert Johnson, Edwin Edinger and David Shoen. David’s book War of the Gods in Recovery about blew me away and was paramount in my recovery.
I’m catching up on a bunch of your prior posts. Good stuff!!! I can tell you are well studied in the philosophical and spirital realms. I’m glad I stumbled on to you in this stack world!!!
Yeah, try it out, you might like it :) (the podcast, that is)
I haven't listened to Father Bill W - lately I am noticing that my identification with an addict and alcoholic is slowly getting weaker and weaker, and even in my writings it is more about human experience and conditioning than necessarily about addiction.
Not in a sense that I am considering not being sober, not at all. More in a sense that I spent years identifying so closely with this part of me, that I got tired of it. Exploring Jungian psychology more brought me to this place of being interested in embracing all parts of me, looking into the depths of my being - like someone recently summed up Jungian psychology in 2 words - "everything belongs". I love this so much.
But, if you say that the guy in the podcast is inspired by Jung and it seems that he has a bit of a different approach from the traditional 12 steps one - I am willing to check it out :) Thank you for sharing.
And thank you for reading my stuff. I post and then I hope someone relates, identifies, finds some inspiration, or simply finds it interesting. I appreciate your comments :)
I’m really not trying to drag this thread into the weeds but first; I listened to Speaking of Jung today. The most recent one with Joseph Cambrey. I really liked it!! So, thanks for that!!
I resonated with what you said about not identifying with being an alcoholic. Isn’t it interesting how that phenomena plays in AA? I see it all the time as I’m sure you have as well. David Shoen explained how ego over identification with persona breaks the psychic axis to Shadow and Self. Well, all those behaviors and traits that don’t fit our identity ‘persona’ get stuffed into the Shadow and the reoressions build and build. Enter the addictive substance which allows a behavior that creates a conduit for Shadow to come into consciousness. A new network called the addiction/shadow complex is formed. You probably know all this but what I find interesting is how people who ‘surrender’ their ego to the Self still have that propensity to create yet another persona to idendify with. This time as a ‘big book thumper’ or ‘AA pillar’. Perhaps it’s a little judgy but I can see it a mile away. My feeling is as long as they avoid their true childhood Shadow repressions, that original addiction-shadow complex will still be active. They just start the whole process again but without the substance....dry,dry,dry.
I’ve actually and inadvertantly started a sort of Jungian based subculture in the recovery circles here in Soldotna, Alaska. I led a once a week study group called ‘Spiritus contra Spiritum’ in which we drilled into the famous letter exchange between Bill W and Jung. Needless to say; it changed our lives.
I’m so grateful that the pattern of synchronicities that got me to where I am. I suppose you could say I am an amalgamation of Jung, Ram Dass, Richard Rohr and Bill W ala Oxford Group and William James. The blend of wisdom from these people has brought me great peace and freedom.
Huge fan of Carl Jung as well as TJL podcast!! I too have found that things seem to gestate in the ‘dark’ times of consciousness. As hard as they are to endure sometimes, I always know know some new birth or progress in my spiritual mind will follow. I trust that process. The only real way to glimpse what is going on ‘down there’ is to watch my dreams and boy, do they ever change near the winter solstice. It seems to be a re-arranging of Self, Shadow, Anima et al. Facinating to say the least.
Great post!!! Thank you!!
Thank you for reading and for your comment Chris. It’s not everyday that I found new fellow Jungian enthusiasts ☺️☺️ Yesss, wintering is some serious business - so little obvious action and so much new emerges out of it ❤️
Just wondering if you’ve found any other Jungians on substack. I heard Lisa Marchiano mention she’s on here, but I couldn’t find her. Also, curious if you tried their Dreamschool? I did for about 6 months but had to prioritize other things and finally let it go. It was really interesting though and I learned quite a bit about dream interpretation.
No, I haven’t tried it, but I think I will at some point! I have to. I love their podcast. Another one is Speaking of Jung, check that one out if you already haven’t. :) I have enrolled in a Jungian coaching program developed by Jung Platform - also a great resource on depth psychology and Jungian work.
I have Speaking of Jung in my podcast library. I haven’t listened to it yet but will, since you suggested it.
How about Father Bill W podcast? Check that out sometime if you haven’t already. He’s big into Jung as it relates to recovery and delves into analysts like Robert Johnson, Edwin Edinger and David Shoen. David’s book War of the Gods in Recovery about blew me away and was paramount in my recovery.
I’m catching up on a bunch of your prior posts. Good stuff!!! I can tell you are well studied in the philosophical and spirital realms. I’m glad I stumbled on to you in this stack world!!!
Yeah, try it out, you might like it :) (the podcast, that is)
I haven't listened to Father Bill W - lately I am noticing that my identification with an addict and alcoholic is slowly getting weaker and weaker, and even in my writings it is more about human experience and conditioning than necessarily about addiction.
Not in a sense that I am considering not being sober, not at all. More in a sense that I spent years identifying so closely with this part of me, that I got tired of it. Exploring Jungian psychology more brought me to this place of being interested in embracing all parts of me, looking into the depths of my being - like someone recently summed up Jungian psychology in 2 words - "everything belongs". I love this so much.
But, if you say that the guy in the podcast is inspired by Jung and it seems that he has a bit of a different approach from the traditional 12 steps one - I am willing to check it out :) Thank you for sharing.
And thank you for reading my stuff. I post and then I hope someone relates, identifies, finds some inspiration, or simply finds it interesting. I appreciate your comments :)
I’m really not trying to drag this thread into the weeds but first; I listened to Speaking of Jung today. The most recent one with Joseph Cambrey. I really liked it!! So, thanks for that!!
I resonated with what you said about not identifying with being an alcoholic. Isn’t it interesting how that phenomena plays in AA? I see it all the time as I’m sure you have as well. David Shoen explained how ego over identification with persona breaks the psychic axis to Shadow and Self. Well, all those behaviors and traits that don’t fit our identity ‘persona’ get stuffed into the Shadow and the reoressions build and build. Enter the addictive substance which allows a behavior that creates a conduit for Shadow to come into consciousness. A new network called the addiction/shadow complex is formed. You probably know all this but what I find interesting is how people who ‘surrender’ their ego to the Self still have that propensity to create yet another persona to idendify with. This time as a ‘big book thumper’ or ‘AA pillar’. Perhaps it’s a little judgy but I can see it a mile away. My feeling is as long as they avoid their true childhood Shadow repressions, that original addiction-shadow complex will still be active. They just start the whole process again but without the substance....dry,dry,dry.
I’ve actually and inadvertantly started a sort of Jungian based subculture in the recovery circles here in Soldotna, Alaska. I led a once a week study group called ‘Spiritus contra Spiritum’ in which we drilled into the famous letter exchange between Bill W and Jung. Needless to say; it changed our lives.
I’m so grateful that the pattern of synchronicities that got me to where I am. I suppose you could say I am an amalgamation of Jung, Ram Dass, Richard Rohr and Bill W ala Oxford Group and William James. The blend of wisdom from these people has brought me great peace and freedom.
Thanks again for the inspiring dialog.
I really enjoy reading your posts. I wish you all the best in your writing journey 💕💕💕